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Episode #70: Work On Yourself and Achieve Fast Results with Gina Yarrish

November 11, 2019 Robert F. Gruler Jr., Esq.
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Episode #70: Work On Yourself and Achieve Fast Results with Gina Yarrish
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Gruler Nation Podcast
Episode #70: Work On Yourself and Achieve Fast Results with Gina Yarrish
Nov 11, 2019
Robert F. Gruler Jr., Esq.

Special Edition of Gruler Nation coming at you yet again! 

 

While at the Genius Network event I had the pleasure of sitting down with Gina Yarrish. Gina is an author and life coach that helps others who consider themselves to be a workaholic remember to take a moment for themselves and slow down. In her book, Harness Your Purpose, Power & Peace, Gina dives into her personal life and reveals her easy- to- follow steps to discover your own Purpose, Power and Peace.  

 

Gina is also the founder of Yarcort, an alternative method to therapy. Yarcort helps entrepreneurs regulate their stress and anxiety while still accelerating their business. Yarcort is a Horse Assisted Learning company that uses horses to help build your confidence and leadership because horses are able to sense your self- esteem. The horses will literally move away from you if they can sense that you are insecure which can be a huge shock for powerful and successful entrepreneurs.  

 

Learn more about Yarcort on their website at https://yarcort.com/  or follow them on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube @yarcort also be sure and check out Gina's book on Amazon!  

 

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The Gruler Nation Podcast is a show that focuses on conversations with interesting "Level 10" people passionate about changing the world with their work, relationships and ideas. The show is hosted by Robert Gruler, an attorney and founding partner of the R&R Law Group, a criminal defense law firm based in Scottsdale, Arizona focused on helping good people charged with crimes move forward with their lives.   

 

Interested in being on the show or have a guest recommendation? Email Robert directly at robert@rrlawaz.com or visit www.robgruler.com for more information.  

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Show Notes Transcript

Special Edition of Gruler Nation coming at you yet again! 

 

While at the Genius Network event I had the pleasure of sitting down with Gina Yarrish. Gina is an author and life coach that helps others who consider themselves to be a workaholic remember to take a moment for themselves and slow down. In her book, Harness Your Purpose, Power & Peace, Gina dives into her personal life and reveals her easy- to- follow steps to discover your own Purpose, Power and Peace.  

 

Gina is also the founder of Yarcort, an alternative method to therapy. Yarcort helps entrepreneurs regulate their stress and anxiety while still accelerating their business. Yarcort is a Horse Assisted Learning company that uses horses to help build your confidence and leadership because horses are able to sense your self- esteem. The horses will literally move away from you if they can sense that you are insecure which can be a huge shock for powerful and successful entrepreneurs.  

 

Learn more about Yarcort on their website at https://yarcort.com/  or follow them on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube @yarcort also be sure and check out Gina's book on Amazon!  

 

Please Like, Subscribe, and Comment below! 

  

#GeniusNetwork #author #lifecoach #workaholic #horsetherapy #Yarcort #PurposePowerPeace #horses #confidence #arizona #success #podcast #InspirationwithGrulerNation #inspire #gruler #inspiration #GrulerNation #GrulerNationPodcast #gnp #arizonapodcast #scottsdale #yesphx #phx  

 

The Gruler Nation Podcast is a show that focuses on conversations with interesting "Level 10" people passionate about changing the world with their work, relationships and ideas. The show is hosted by Robert Gruler, an attorney and founding partner of the R&R Law Group, a criminal defense law firm based in Scottsdale, Arizona focused on helping good people charged with crimes move forward with their lives.   

 

Interested in being on the show or have a guest recommendation? Email Robert directly at robert@rrlawaz.com or visit www.robgruler.com for more information.  

Support the show (https://www.ericshouse.org/donate/)

Speaker 1:

This is a special edition of the ruler nation podcast joined today by Jeannie yartish . We're both sitting here in the Biltmore outside of the annual genius network event. And I brought my gear and I thought, Hey, why don't we just sit down and talk about some of the things that you're doing? And I know you do a lot. I mean, basically what I've learned about you. So I just got your book Harnish, your purpose, power and peace. Discover the leader within you. So my understanding is you're a coach, you're somebody who helps people through, you know , issues in their lives. But I'll turn it over to you and ask you to give us a little kind of an overview on what it is you do and then we can dive into, you know , how you got there and where you're going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So , um, you know, a lot of people are on a journey of justice , um , outward reach of, you know, a striving for something more. And then we get out of balance in life from that work and health and career. And what we're really working towards is this time, money, freedom kind of thing. But we ended up getting addicted to like workaholics, right? And then , um, because of that other areas of our life, you know, suffer. So , um, part of the whole journey for me was I was that workaholic , um, worked 70, 80, 90 hours a week, you know, sat on all of these boards from economic development to border realtors and I have four kids. And so we did traveling soccer and local PT and you know, so it's like every waking hour you had something to do and you lose sight of what's important. Um , before long, I mean, people started to say, Hey, you know, make sure you take a vacation or something nice for yourself. And yeah , I mean, now I can look back and say, well, those were kind of like all the warning signs, right? Wanting signs that you need to slow down, you know, and the only thing that's important is yourself. And if you don't take care of yourself, right? How many times have you heard that? Right? Don't take care of yourself, then you're not going to be here to take care of anybody. Yeah. Um, well I, I got to that point where the big guy upstairs gave me a really clear memo , um, and I ended up in the hospital having a heart catheterization at 35. And so the memo was really clear, like, did you not hear what I had to say? You need to slow down. And when you have four kids , um, you know, you, it's like a, you know, a flash before your eyes. Like they're small. What if I'm not here? You know, and you know, a lot of the people in genius network like Ben Hardy, your rights , willpower doesn't work. I mean, I learned this. I mean, I realize a lot of the things that I do have implemented earlier on, but I relocated from where I was living away from the toxic patterns that I had. Um, and what I discovered was , um, in order to, in order for me to turn off those patterns and habits, including my thinking patterns, was I started studying horsemanship. It was something that I always wanted to learn about , um, through the horsemanship learning. Um , the first thing that happened was that I realized I wasn't thinking anymore. You know, so in your mind that's always going, it's always turned on your never ending planning schedules. What do I have to do next? All of a sudden it was like, Oh my God, you know, like I wasn't thinking anything. And I thought, well, how powerful is that? So I went on to study psychotherapy with horses and then life coaching and um, equine assistant learning and things like that. And over a period of time, people started coming to me for specific reasons and we created a pattern. You know, what we put together a pattern or what people came for and what the problem was and how we helped resolve them. And the three things that everyone is always looking for. In the end, the , the ultimate end is happiness. But happiness isn't something that you buy. It's something that you do, you know, something that you achieve in order to get somewhere. And so when we have purpose, we feel happy. When we feel powerful, we feel empowered by self worth and self love, we feel happy. And then of course, you know, with all of that comes peace of mind. And if you have peace of mind, is that not happiness in itself?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, those are three very good pillars. And what's interesting about what you do is, you know, there's, there's a lot of different coaches in the world right now. There are coaches for everything that you could imagine. We were talking about it, you know, there was a coaching or you could hire somebody to help you warm your bed up.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I know somebody to help you with things that don't even, you know, it's kind of , it's kind of crazy. Yeah .

Speaker 1:

There are some modalities that are certainly better than others and

Speaker 2:

some are more effective than what's, what's, you know, we had spoken about it a little bit before we hopped on here was what you do with horses. And so how did you take these principles, these lessons, these helping people develop their purpose, power teams and integrate that with horses ? Well, actually she's the opposite. The book came after. Okay . Right. Um, so through my own life experiences, when I was studying natural horsemanship, it was , those were the lessons that I learned, right? And so then I started to, you know, they always say start with what you have. And so I did, I started with what I had started individuals sessions for courses . And , um, I started to see a pattern of , you know, what people were coming for and you know, the first thing being more self aware of, you know, how they show up, how they think, how they, you know, what are their behaviors and attitudes that are getting them the results in life that they don't like. And then what can I do to help that? And that's how the book came about. So the book not only talks about how to find that purpose, power and peace, but also how we integrate the horses into, to helping people understand it's not about riding , right? These predisposed ideas of horses are for therapy or riding or racing, right? Um, it's about horse assisted learning. And so when we ask the human to quiet their mouth long enough, it allows their brain to start to think as to why the behavior is showing up. The way it's showing that , you know, if you're interacting with the horse and the horses that moving and you're becoming frustrated while there's this parallel, like, well where does that happen in? And people have these huge Epiphanes and like, yeah, well it's not what's outside of you, but it's what you're doing that's creating that response. Right. And there's this kind of, I don't have a lot of horse experience just in general. I don't like Danny and I don't think a lot of people do. Uh , but it's, it's one of those things, my understanding is that you can really build an interesting connection with a horse that you can maybe unlike other animals and that the horse can kind of pick up on maybe some of your energies, your emotions, the things that are going on in your mindset. They can pick up on your body language and, and then you can use the horse or the horses using you or however you want to phrase it. But you're building a relationship with an animal who's going to help facilitate the lessons that you teach. Can you describe how that works or kind of how you walk through that? So think about someone like, you know, when you're in a world of entrepreneurs, right, there's this motto of, you know, fake it till you make it right. And so we may not have the self esteem that we needed to get to the level of success that we want. And so we may put on this, this frontier of, you know, you dress really well, your talk really well, you act really well. You may have all the wonderful like, you know, beautiful websites and great cards and um, but inside that self esteem is , doesn't match what the outside looks like. Sure. When we step into the arena with horses and just to have a simple interaction and say, okay, well meet and greet, right? I mean you may have two or three horses that are just moving about and we said , well go introduce yourself to those horses and bring one back to us. Okay. Um, if you have low self esteem, the number one thing that horses look for is not praise and it's not a Pat on the shoulder. Right. Or it's not a piece of steak. They want leadership. Yeah . And so self esteem is um, an, you know, an identity of leadership and confidence. And so if you don't have that self esteem, you can't lie to the horse, the horses will all move away. Right ? Right. Or if they're not moving away, you're , you're having this, there's visualization, right? Yeah . If they're not living away, then how is it that they get up close and personal in your space, right. Where it's something that you don't like either. And so they help set the boundary. Right. That's fascinating. Yeah. I can see that. And the horse doesn't care about what kind of car you drive or how big your house is. No , they're totally unbiased. Going into an environment like that and having to build a relationship with an animal who can kind of sense what's going on in your core. It must be an interesting experience. And I imagine that you probably have some people who come in with a false sense of bravado. Like I'm super confident, I'm extremely secure, I can handle anything. And you put them in this environment. Sometimes those are really pain in the eye . That can be pretty painful experiences because you know , um , it's not about what shows up on the outside, it's what's on the inside that's important. Yeah. Yeah. And how, how does this process unfold? So is it a multi-day type of journey? Because I would imagine that there's a lot of lessons that people are gonna gonna take and then they're going to have to process that. Anytime we're talking about entrepreneurs and of course growing ourselves, it's always, it's always a, it's never a, you do a three day workshop and then you're thinking about it for the next three years. [inaudible] stuff, right? Cause there's that much content in that much material. But how does it, how does it function when you're guiding somebody through this process? Yeah, so there's that methodologies that there's 12 sessions. OK . um , in psychology there's something known as norm, storm and perform. And so we bring you more self aware of where you're at. We create the frustration so that you can learn and then we bring you all back together so that you can perform at your highest peak, which is what the yellow star is on my business card is helping people get to that highest potential. We have , uh , groups that we run. Um, they're advertised on our Facebook page or on our webpage. Um , and then we do team building as well. So usually an individual will come and have such a powerful experience that they end up bringing their team back. And so that you can get that cohesiveness with them. And then independently and others , a lot of entrepreneurs that , um, you know, they have a really hard time being vulnerable and, and, and opening up. And so what we do is we work privately with them , um , where they get to come and spend three beautiful days. On our countryside and the endless mountain region of Pennsylvania high on the mountain tops and work just one on one with me for three days and they go home and it's so stickable right? Because you know, if you think about learning , um, webinars, seminars, you know, self help books, whatever it may be, especially as entrepreneurs, right? Cause we're avid learners, we wanna read. Uh , what makes it really powerful is the fact that it's the experience that we create for you, that you achieved those aha moments throughout our time , uh , that you can't forget it because it's something that you're physically doing. It's not just sitting there reading or you know, learning. Right . And for many people, I imagine it's something completely different. I mean, I'm thinking of myself going through this and it kind of makes me uncomfortable. I don't know what to do around horses. I've never been around where it says, yeah , and it scares me a little bit that they might be able to see deep inside my soul and identify all of those. Thank God they can't talk. Right. That's true . Yeah. If, if, if they can post what they found on social media, I probably would never join the program. But that's very interesting. So we're talking about entrepreneurs because we're at an entreprenuer event. Yeah. Is that predominantly who you work with or are there other people who can come through and gain value out of your program? We do have other trainers that they can work with there yet, but prime predominantly me, that's who I relate to the most is high achievers, entrepreneurs, people that are just, you know, strivers you know, I relate mostly to them, people who want to level up kind of what they're doing. Which leads me to ask when, when is a good time for an entrepreneur to kind of jump into the, into the program that you're offering and your situation. You realize you needed to make a change

Speaker 1:

in your life when you had something catastrophic happen in your life and you were on the verge of losing everything, it sounds like. Uh , certainly, you know, I don't think a lot of entrepreneurs want to wait until they get to that stage. But when, what are some warning signs, when should people find themselves in a position where they're most ready to get value out of what you [inaudible]

Speaker 2:

it's a , it's a really great question, Rob . And you know, it's interesting because I think for most entrepreneurs we're so driven, that's the hardest thing we can do is step away from working right. And more often than not, we find that people are on the verge of like something traumatic is beginning to happen in their life . Something has happened that's caused them to take a step back and they realize they need help. Um, yeah, I almost want to say it's like a last resort kind of thing. They know they need to get out of the workaholic pattern that they're in and they're not sure what to do. And that's usually when we hear from them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah . It seems like it's , the process in and of itself might be diagnostic in a certain way. So even if even if entrepreneurs come through and then they're saying, Hey, you know, things are generally going pretty well but something feels off and I can't quite put my finger on it . It sounds like the horse might help them identify that. Absolutely. Yeah .

Speaker 2:

I mean we do get people that say, you know, like, you know, we're avid learners. Like, Oh you know, I want to do some personal development then yeah we do get people that reach out but more often than not it's people that have met a point of frustration or they feel stuck or they realize that they're really in deep of being, you know, working too much and they need to bring back that work life balance and how do I do that? We just take them back to the simple basics of life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Do you, do you find that converting people into, so you know it's a service that you provide. Obviously you could deliver a tremendous amount of value but it is a little unorthodox, right? Entrepreneurs unconventional. Yeah. It might be the better way to put it. But you know, entrepreneurs, we are, we're always reading the self help books, going to seminars, watching webinars, you know, trying to see what different supplement we can put in our body or Jack things up a little bit and what you do with horses and , and the coaching and that modality is just not something that's , that's common. I mean, I've never heard of it. I have heard of equine therapy or you know, for addiction or for PTSD and those types of things. But what you do is a little bit, it's unconventional and there's a lot of value to that. I mean, that's one of the selling points or the benefits and features that you provide, but what's the response been from other entrepreneurs? Is it something where they're going? What are you talking about? Yeah. You know,

Speaker 2:

interesting. Because again, that predisposed of idea that horses are for therapy racing or I'm a writing, right. And I think in the States, equine assisted learning and there's lots of acronyms to it , have been, it's been pioneering for like the past 10 years. 10 years really isn't that long ago. Yeah . Um, so it's been a challenge, you know, getting the word out. But people think that the alternative, you know, when they, when they get to that point of frustration that they're, you know, therapy or medicine or yoga and meditation , um, which has brought me to do the work that I do was that I wanted something that wasn't therapy, that I had to talk about my problems. I knew my fricking problems, Rob . And then , you know, I mean, I knew that I had stuff and , uh , it wasn't what was that was the problem or with my past necessarily that was the problem. But how do I recondition my thinking just start thinking forward in the direction of what it was that I was, that I was doing. So , um, it kind of , system learning was something that was a coaching program that was out of the box that was different. I mean, that's what entrepreneurs will have to do, right? Things that are different, unconventional. And in my own life experience, it was so powerful that I couldn't help but want to share it. My first 30 years in business was in real estate. Right. I was doing what was expected. I was really good at it. I've had a lot of great success with real estate. I didn't like, this wasn't something that I went, Ooh, I'm going to start doing like, you know, coaching with horses. This is something that came to me in the process and it was just so powerful that I felt a need to share it. How did you

Speaker 1:

initially get connected with that though? I mean, so yeah. What, what, what , what spurred that? Because it sounds like, you know , you didn't grow up on a ranch or something. This was something where you had a professional life, very driven, focused in some of the more traditional areas where a lot of entrepreneurs would like to live. It's real estate and investing in those things. So what, what made that connection with connected the dots there? I mean I know you had that, the , the , the incident in the hospital and what , what doors open or what triggered you to say, Hey, maybe this is something that I want to look into and then you found it to be so successful. Of course here we are. But what bridge that gap?

Speaker 2:

You know, I think if I had to go back , um, I don't know that anyone's ever asked me that question before. I know that I always wanted to learn about horses when I was in my early twenties and lived in Jersey. I had bought a horse, but it was just so expensive, you know, to, to board and stuff like that. And then I was having kids and , um, it just became a challenge , um, when I was, I don't know, it's almost like a need to take care of something outside of children. Yeah. You know , um, I was , uh , I was at as something that I don't often share with people that I'm starting to get better about it, but I was born in an unwed mothers home and so I was put up for adoption at a really early, early age. And even though that I didn't go through a lot of the problems that may be a lot of other children in foster systems and stuff like that went through, there was still this traumatic , um, thinking about, you know, I wasn't worthy enough. I wasn't good enough. Something must've been wrong with me. Um, you know, so there was, I , I really believe that that was the motivation behind the success that I've had was that because I wasn't biologically connected to anybody, my family wasn't necessarily my , my family, but it was what I made it. And , um, I think the journey with the horses was just about me. Yeah. You know, it was just about me discovering myself and who I was. And it was probably the first time that I actually felt grounded in me. I wasn't doing what other people thought or wanted.

Speaker 1:

Right. And sometimes the universe just works that way. There are things that have happened in my life that, you know, five years ago I would, I would never have had any idea that that's what I would be doing. But here I am because the universe puts the pieces where they need to go and you figure it out and follow through it. I imagine also that you kind of touched on it, but this idea that horses are almost like children in a way, but not but not, right. So maybe, maybe people like I'm not very great around kids, I'm just not, I never had that skillset . But growing up , uh, my , you know, my younger brother did, I didn't. So now, today to put me in an environment where I have to kind of lead an animal would be, it would be a unique experience for me. I don't have any kids, so I don't know what that world is like. And I don't, you can't take me to a place where you give me a child for a couple days and , and , and show me leadership squad skills to deal with that child. But a horse has sort of a kind of a, a blank slate in a way where you can really build a relationship that's going to pull people outside of their ordinary comfort zone.

Speaker 2:

Oh, well, you know, it's definitely all about uncomfortable, right? Because you don't need experience. It's just on the ground interaction. We create metaphors with obstacles for you to learn from as something as simple as a meet and greet with horses. You know, people, people laugh and like really just meeting and greeting with horses. But think about the powerful lesson just in that thinking of, you know, how you approach people. I remember one gentleman, we did a meet and greet with, we come back in and we facilitate and talk about their experience and we had five horses in the arena and the gentleman said to me, everyone walked away. Alright . Um , one of those high end entrepreneurs. Yeah. And it was like, wow. Like, you know, that's pretty powerful insight. You know, what do you think's going on there? And it was through his, you know what I mean? Cause it's not what I see, you know, it's what you interpret . Um, he realized that , um, his own self esteem, right. He may have been a really good tarko really good charmer, but his own self esteem was that he didn't believe in himself. And we had to shift that mindset. But , um, it was, it was hard to realize that the problem isn't what's outside of you. The problem is you,

Speaker 1:

that's a difficult realization for anybody to have, especially those high performers , entrepreneurs who have made a name for themselves and have a lot of money and have a lot of social status when they come to events like the one we just finished, they have people who flock to them. They want their advice, they want to in theirs , in their gravity and in their aura. And that's very validating for those people. But when they go into an environment where 10 horses are all running away from them, yeah, I imagine that's a pretty big shock. And now they have to process that.

Speaker 2:

You know, Joe Polish said something at the end of the , uh, the session today and it was about , um, gosh, help me under, help me remember how he said it. Uh, it was about, you know, you can do so many things over and over and over again, but when you take the time to do it right, you can go further faster with less effort. What was the metaphor that you use ? Was it the marshmallow? The marshmallow? I remember the marshmallow. The marshmallow. Yeah. I forget what it was. Yeah. I don't remember what it was, but um, you know, coming and working on yourself. Yeah . Um, is , it's a hard thing, but you have to be open to the idea first of all, right? You have to be willing to realize that because of your attitude, your behaviors, your thought patterns, your actions, you're getting the result in life based on what your beliefs are. And if you want to really change it, then it doesn't matter how hard you externally change anything. The easiest and fastest path to change the outcomes in the situations around you is by to change yourself first. And where else can you go to learn stuff like that? Yeah , it's , it's cool .

Speaker 1:

Absolutely true. It's something that I think a lot of entrepreneurs, we get a lot of value of. Part of the question is how do you make them understand that or, or at least open the door open the possibility that this is something that may be beneficial to them. Which I know we have a couple of minutes left cause I know you've got to get going, but I wanted to ask you, how has the journey been in growing this business? So, you know, it's something that's, as we talked about, it's unconventional. You know, not everybody's doing this. I don't know anybody else in the whole country or world.

Speaker 2:

Oh, believe it or not. You know, because we've had this conversation now, you know, there's that heightened awareness around it that more people are gonna show up in order to be like, Oh my God, wow. You do that? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well how has it been? So you're , you know, you're an entrepreneur, you're starting, you're , you're running with this business and delivering great value, but how has that, has that journey been? Has it been kind of, you know , rewarding, frustrating? What's your experience been?

Speaker 2:

It's rewarding, you know, the Epiphanes and the experience and the ahas that people get when you're working with them. It's, you know, I mean, yes, we all need to get paid for the work that we do, but I think the rewards of seeing people really, you know, I mean their faces just shift, you know, when they're in the arena with us. Um, but the frustration is, you know, getting people to want to experience something with a horse and like why a horse, you know, and horses are really great at just marrying that emotion that we can't see about ourselves. Um, they either just so magical and mystical , um, they're big, some are bigger than you, so, you know, creates that uncomfortableness. Um, but you know, we also have this smaller verses that we work with, even though we don't, you know, tell them that they're small. Um, it doesn't matter the size, it's just a learning opportunity. It's just the unconventional way of learning about you and you follow your graduates of the program through and what some of the response been . You know, it's , um, one gentleman in particular that's bubbling up at the moment. Great guy, I won't mention names, but , um, when he, he's very successful entrepreneur in the wealth management industry, he , um, gosh, again, it's volunteered on every board possible, right? Was overextended, just gratitude, giving back to the communities. But there was an empty hole inside of him on, and he was, you know, I had all these external reaches but never worked on himself. And so he came to us and he did the 12 sessions. And one of the things that changed dramatically in his life was that he found the courage to learn how to have what we refer to as a healthy conversation and agree to disagree that he reconnected with family that he hadn't talked to in 17 years. Um, now there's not a day that goes by that he doesn't talk with them. Um , the flip side of it, we've had, you know , um, entrepreneurs that are in the sales industry , um, even with health conditions all of a sudden meet their goals and then some, wow . You know, so you know, if you want to go further, faster and feel good about life, right, feel good. Um, you know, have that purpose, power and peace within you, then the more you work on yourself, the faster you'll have results happen for you.

Speaker 1:

Great takeaway . You just summed up everything that we've been working on on the last. That was beautiful. Well, let me tell people how to connect with you. So [inaudible] some of the best places to find them. Of course, if you have the book. Yup . Amazon, you can go right to Amazon or our website, which is Debbie, Debbie, Debbie. Dot. Yar court, Y a R C O R t.com. Um, Facebook. Yeah. Facebook. Yeah. Social media, social media, where their LinkedIn, you're on there on there will . Excellent. Well, Gina Jarosz Yar , cort.com . Don't forget to get the book. Harness your purpose, power, and peace and consider changing your modalities a little bit. I know a lot of us like to get really pinned down on certain things that we like we get comfortable with, but there's a another alternative out there that may help you even reached that next high level, that next potential. Gina, thank you so much for taking the time. That's great . Yeah. Same here.

Speaker 3:

Okay .

Speaker 4:

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