Gruler Nation Podcast

Episode #67: Learn How to Increase Your Focus and Energy with Maria Williams

November 04, 2019
Gruler Nation Podcast
Episode #67: Learn How to Increase Your Focus and Energy with Maria Williams
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Gruler Nation Podcast
Episode #67: Learn How to Increase Your Focus and Energy with Maria Williams
Nov 04, 2019
Robert F. Gruler Jr., Esq.

Maria Williams is a mompreneur in the health and wellness space. Maria became passionate about health and wellness because of the value that it can bring to others. Maria started her journey in the manufacturing industry for over 27 years then became a stay at home mom and found a miracle product that increased her focus and overall energy.  

 

The product is a NrF2 Activator which activates your body and heals you from the inside out. The product reduces inflammation, detoxifies your body, and corrects gene expression. Maria began using the product for herself and realized the amazing benefits of it so she decided it would be a disservice if she did not share this product with others. Maria turned it into her own business and built a community around wellness and helping others.   

 

If you are interested in learning more about this amazing product find it on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NrF2Activator/ or connect with Maria on mariawilliams.lifevantage.com  

 

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The Gruler Nation Podcast is a show that focuses on conversations with interesting "Level 10" people passionate about changing the world with their work, relationships and ideas. The show is hosted by Robert Gruler, an attorney and founding partner of the R&R Law Group, a criminal defense law firm based in Scottsdale, Arizona focused on helping good people charged with crimes move forward with their lives.   

 

Interested in being on the show or have a guest recommendation? Email Robert directly at robert@rrlawaz.com or visit www.robgruler.com for more information.  

 

 

Show Notes Transcript

Maria Williams is a mompreneur in the health and wellness space. Maria became passionate about health and wellness because of the value that it can bring to others. Maria started her journey in the manufacturing industry for over 27 years then became a stay at home mom and found a miracle product that increased her focus and overall energy.  

 

The product is a NrF2 Activator which activates your body and heals you from the inside out. The product reduces inflammation, detoxifies your body, and corrects gene expression. Maria began using the product for herself and realized the amazing benefits of it so she decided it would be a disservice if she did not share this product with others. Maria turned it into her own business and built a community around wellness and helping others.   

 

If you are interested in learning more about this amazing product find it on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NrF2Activator/ or connect with Maria on mariawilliams.lifevantage.com  

 

Please Like, Subscribe, and Comment below! 

 

#mompreneur #healthandwellness #health #wellness #NrF2Activator #activator #NrF2 #focus #energy #community #arizona #growth #success #podcast #InspirationwithGrulerNation #inspire #gruler #inspiration #GrulerNation #GrulerNationPodcast #gnp #arizonapodcast #scottsdale #yesphx #phx  

 

The Gruler Nation Podcast is a show that focuses on conversations with interesting "Level 10" people passionate about changing the world with their work, relationships and ideas. The show is hosted by Robert Gruler, an attorney and founding partner of the R&R Law Group, a criminal defense law firm based in Scottsdale, Arizona focused on helping good people charged with crimes move forward with their lives.   

 

Interested in being on the show or have a guest recommendation? Email Robert directly at robert@rrlawaz.com or visit www.robgruler.com for more information.  

 

 

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Speaker 1:
0:01
This is episode 67 of the griller nation podcast. My name is Robert ruler, joined today by Maria Williams. Maria loons is a mom for newer and you're in the health and wellness space and you've got some interesting things to talk about. Things like Nutrogenomix of course, the NRF two, the activator, some health benefits of these different things that you're a part of.
Speaker 2:
0:25
And we also want to talk a little bit about network marketing. So Maria, thank you for being here. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here and share what we have. Yeah, and you know, I know when we first met there was a story that you told a about kind of how you got into this space, into the health and wellness space and it was a personal story and a touching story. Can we start there? Can you tell me a little bit about kind of your evolution from your prior career into this career and, and how this, this product and this sort of awareness of the effects of taking more control of your health and your and your wellness, how that has changed your life. Can we, can we dive into that? I know it's some heavy stuff, but yeah. Try not to get teary or emotional. Yeah, yeah. No, I know, but it's, but it's important that people understand your backstory.
Speaker 3:
1:11
Yeah. It is. Because I didn't get into this because of the business I got into this because of the value of these products and what it did. And I think that's different when you find something that you know, changes your life, touches your life and you're passionate about, um, you want to share it, you know. So that's kind of how it evolved. But, you know, I was, um, I moved here, terrorists on it from Massachusetts and I was, um, in the manufacturing industry for over 20 some years in, um, as a human resource professional in any industry, you know, and I worked in a very toxic environment, unfortunately, exposed to lots of toxins. And then around 2007, um, my blood worker's a little off and my doctor wanted me to go do some testing and they were thinking it was leukemia and it wasn't, I was supposed to go back and get retested.
Speaker 3:
1:57
And I didn't go right away. Um, but that started my health journey. Um, then 2008 came and that's when the economy kind of went, you know, little crazy bad year for people. And so we, my husband's whole company got restructured and so he, we thought he had to move here for, um, you know, for his job. And so I said, okay, let's move, but I'm not working. My boys were nine and 11, and, um, you know, we didn't have any friends or family and anyone here and I just want it to be that stay at home mom finally. Sure. And, but that's how my health journey started knowing that in the back of my mind, okay, something's going on. Um, I know I wasn't in pain or sick. I was just tired and run down. Just thought it was normal life as you get older.
Speaker 3:
2:41
But I started my health journey looking into what can I do to, um, be healthier. Right. You started to eat better and exercise more and looking at, you know, supplementation, what was out there and learned a lot about antioxidants. They were really good for you, good to fight cancers and all that. So really got into antioxidants. And then, um, around 2010, my neighbor actually came over and showed me an ABC investigative report on this company that had a scientific breakthrough. Um, and I saw that report and it kind of blew my mind. I was like, Whoa, this is very different because it's not an antioxidant. It was your body making its own antioxidant enzymes and we have thousands of enzymes and if you can activate these enzymes, it's like unlocking your body's own pharmacy and your body goes to work and your body begins to heal itself.
Speaker 3:
3:36
So I was really intrigued with the science. Um, and you know, peer review published studies from top universities around the world. And, um, so then I said, yeah, I want to try this product. Got on it, started to feel great, um, energy back, um, you know, just more mental clarity, focus and, and really it was my energy that I got back. That was the biggest thing. I just felt like I was young again and you know, could work out more, could just do so much more. And um, and then I just decided to let me start sharing this with people because what I saw I was doing for me, um, I wanted to make, give that gift back to people. And then along that journey, I was on the product already for four years. And my doctor said, my new doctor here said, Hey, you should go back and get retested.
Speaker 3:
4:25
Your blood work is better, but it's just never gotten normal. What it should be, whatever normal is. Right? And so I said, sure, I'll go. And so I went back to a hematologist oncologist to check my blood. And what they found I had was multiple myeloma and not leukemia, but different type of blood cancer. And you know, that day he told me it's a incurable cancer and an average of four to five years to live. And I was like, Whoa, you know, kind of shocked me a little. Yeah. But then I had to stop and think my journey, how I was not feeling well and how I'm feeling great now. And I probably had this going on since 2007 and so I said to him, I feel great. And he goes, yep, and you look really good. You don't look like someone that my normal patients that come in here.
Speaker 3:
5:12
And I told them what I had been doing and he said, you know when I said, how about if I do nothing? Like let's not do the chemo, what am I options. Yeah, my other options and a lot of people, that's one thing I want people to think and ask their doctors what are all the options? I mean because doing nothing is an option. Sure. And I didn't know at the time I just kinda threw it out there and he, and he said, well if you can keep your numbers low the way they are, you're fine. If they start to go up then I really recommend chemo. And I said, okay then let's monitor it. Cause we didn't know at the time. He didn't know where my numbers going up or was this a result of what I had done all the past, prior years. And what happened was it was a result of what I had done.
Speaker 3:
5:53
My numbers stayed stable. I have not, you know, knock on wood, had to have any treatment, any traditional treatment done. Um, and I attribute a big part is by, you know, activating my body, getting, um, this into my body and getting my body to heal itself. And one of the things it does is detoxifies your body of toxins. And I probably had a toxin and it was, it's been cleaning out my body and you know, um, so to me it's been, you know, life changing in that I'm here and I'm thriving and you know, and, and you still look great. Thank you. I feel great. Yeah. That's awesome. Did you talk to your doctor about, about that? About what your regimen was? Yes, absolutely. And you know, oncologist have very traditional, like, this is what it's in the books, this is what we know works.
Speaker 3:
6:45
Um, but he just said, keep doing what you're doing. It's working for you. Um, and we'll just keep monitoring it. And so that's what I've done. And here we are, 2019 since 2007 so I've beaten the odds. Yeah. Um, you know, and I've incorporated other tools, you know, like acupuncture come on X and every now and then, you know, Ivy treatments just to really stay ahead and, you know, anything new that I hear about that's out there. I mean, I'm always open to, you know, someone says something's good. I'm like, yeah, I'll try it. You know? Yeah. Natural and it's not going to harm me. Right. Yeah. And that's kind of where there's different schools of thought, right? You kind of have that, the standard traditional Western medicine, you got cancer, go pump yourself full of, you know, the chemo stuff and go, you know, go through all that treatment.
Speaker 3:
7:32
And then you've got the other, the other group of people kind of like Steve jobs, right? I mean, Steve jobs was anti that and he tried a bunch of, you know, paleo diets and all this other stuff and didn't work out so well for him. So you have this, this area where people are sort of competing for everybody's attention on what works and what doesn't work. And you've kind of found the middle of the road, you found something that worked for you, right? You take, you start taking this stuff and, and you get into a regimen that works for you. Your doctor validates that it's working, you're doing well, you're healthy. And now your message is to share that with other people. But let's talk about that actual product. So you've mentioned it a little bit. Can you explain what it is and how it works?
Speaker 3:
8:14
What it's, what it's doing? Yeah, so our main product is a NRF two activator. So it's, it's activating your body. Um, like I said, like unlocking that pharmacy inside your body and your body's in control and your body is doing the healing. You know, a couple of things it does is reduce inflammation. Oxidative stress, which is inflammation in your body, can detoxify the body and it can correct gene expression. So it lets your body be in charge and talk to your genes and find out, okay, what's not working? And get it back to back into balance. Your body's always trying to get to back into balance. If you get exposed, you know, to virus or something, your body, you know, sends out the, you know, um, antibodies to try to fight it. But it's always trying to get back into balance. So, and in NRF two activation was, uh, discovered around 1998 99 by a Japanese researcher.
Speaker 3:
9:13
And since then, um, universities, I've done tons of research on NRF two activation. I mean, Washington state university probably has the, uh, one of the best studies on it and they claim that, you know, NRF two activation is uh, the, uh, one of the biggest, um, therapeutic and preventative breakthrough in the history of medicine. So once they started to understand what this pathway does in your body, um, they really started to, to look at and say, well, this controls so much in your body. We were fortunate enough that, um, you know, dr Joe McCord who was a nominated for the Nobel prize in medicine and got the Elliot Crescent award was in this arena looking for ways to activate enzymes in your body. He actually discovered sod, which is an enzyme. And so that's all he was trying to do is trying to, how do I get this enzyme to increase its production? Cause as we age it decreases. And with that, um, some, um, two, uh, two researchers came to him within the eye with the idea of how about if we look at herbs and what could they do, can we activate, um, get the body to make this particular enzyme and other enzymes? And that's how this, you know, he tapped into the pathway to with know these herbs that he's put together an a right ratio to turn on and activate this pathway in our body. Um, and that's how, you know, mainly it works.
Speaker 2:
10:37
Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. There's a lot, there's a big kind of movement into that space. It's sort of, it's not so much like, like traditional medicinal stuff where you take, you know, Advil and it, you know, it reduces your inflammation because the ibuprofen is causing your body to respond that way. There is this biohacking stuff where you are using herbs, using some, some natural formulations to amplify what your body wants to do but just doesn't have the resources to do. And then once you take it, it just, it, uh, kind of turns the lights on.
Speaker 3:
11:13
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, so the, the branch of is Nutrogenomix, which is nutrition for your genes. So if you give your genes the right nutrition, then you can get your body to respond and be the way it's supposed to be. Right? And so when in, so when not activating particular, um, genes or activating pathways, and we've actually activated three different pathways now we call them the three theories of aging. Um, the one path three was the NRF two pathway. Um, the other pathways, the NRF one pathway. That pathway, um, can repair your mitochondria and make more mitochondria. Well, mitochondria is the engine of the cell. It's what gets it running. And revving what damages it is the oxidative stress. So the first pathway is the most important because it kind of reduces that oxidation in your body. The second pathway in RF one gets the engine, the mitochondria running.
Speaker 3:
12:13
And then the third pathway that we just launched a product and that pathway is the sirtuin, um, activity cert sirtuin, um, uh, pathway. And that pathway is by turning on what's called N a D and a D is a molecule and it flips on the switch to your, your body to, um, that sirtuin pathway, which is a set of seven different proteins that it's controlling. I like to think of it as, so you've got the car right, you got the rust in the car, get rid of the rust, uh, the nerve to pathway in the Nerf one pathway. The engine and the sirtuin pathway is, um, the computer that's, you know, in control of the windows going up and down, all the electronics, all of that. So think of like the mainframe in your body that's controlling everything else, all these different proteins that it controls.
Speaker 3:
13:03
Um, so when you get that to be working, uh, properly, then you're, it's another pathway of, you know, and they're layered approaches to health. It's not just one pill is going to cure it all. You know, that's not how it works, you know, but the different layers in the body, um, and there's just, there's a doctor, I'm Dr. David Sinclair from Harvard. They just launched a book called lifespan and what you need to know, and he's done research on NAD over 30 years of research, um, and he said without NAD, within 30 seconds, you're dead. So it's a very important molecule. The problem is as we age, it starts to decline. And so it's finding ways, how do you not have these, you know, molecules and enzymes decline in your body, but maintain the right level of, um, levels that they should be at. And we think of, well, are we, you know, I've had even people say, well, you kind of tapping with, you know, maybe that's supposed to happen.
Speaker 3:
14:05
Well, no, because we've changed our environment. So the reason why it has decreased more over the years, these different enzymes and molecules in our body, it's because of the toxins that we've put into our environment, into our foods, pesticides, herbicides, preservatives in our environment. You know, we want, you know, all the cars, the traffic and everything that we've done. You know, that's why diseases continue to rise. They're not going down. And, um, it's because of our environment. So when, you know, our fruits are not like they used to be, um, years ago where, you know, they have more nutrients in them. I just learned something yesterday talking to 'em, um, and nutritionist that they radiate our, so I didn't even know. I'm like, what, what do you mean radiate? So, you know, she lives in Minnesota. She says, yeah, something's picked in California to get to Minnesota.
Speaker 3:
15:00
It, so the radiation kills the enzymes because the enzymes will make the fruit turn Brown and, and, and you know, uh, not be fresh. So they radiate them. So they get there. But you've killed the essence of what we need, right? The enzymes that are, were used to be in our fruits and vegetables that used to get into our, you know, our guts in our body, which we need those, um, you know, those bacteria in all those enzymes that are in there, we're, we're kind of killing them. And so it's not the same. So those are the reasons why we need to take a more preventative approach and look at how can I, you know, what we've destroyed, how can we put it back into our body?
Speaker 2:
15:38
Yeah. It's, it's interesting when people say that, you know, taking care of yourself is interfering with the natural progression of things, which I think is just a terrible argument. I mean, if that's the case, why wouldn't you take, you know, why, why would you take antibiotics ever? Or, you know, or any of those things that, you know, thankfully modern science is helping us uncover how we can live longer, more productive, healthier lives. And there's no reason to not take advantage of that. Now, I know, you know, the, the, the products that you S that you and your company, you're a partner with, um, produce and sell, uh, are not, you kind of have to walk that fine line between being something that's medicinal or FDA approved or any of those things. So you have to be really careful about some of the claims that you make because it'll drag it over into that category.
Speaker 2:
16:30
So you have to stay in, you know, very clearly within the supplement or, or, you know, you can, you can describe what that, how that works. But, um, but I want to ask you about, you know, you've been, this is something that you've been doing for a long time and, uh, you know, you've worked with other people. What types of, uh, relief or benefits are you seeing out of people? I know you mentioned anti, uh, antiinflammatories inflammation and those types of things, but where are you seeing people get value out of it? You know, on a personal, practical level.
Speaker 3:
17:00
So, um, reduce, uh, so more energy, mental clarity, focus, just overall feeling great. Um, and you know, I've been doing this now for nine years, almost 80,000 people, um, in my organization, mostly all customers, right? So I hear lots and lots of different stories and it, it can help anything that's linked to, um, high oxidation in your body, right. Which is almost, almost every disease is linked to oxidative stress or inflammatory, right? So it helps reduce that oxidation in your body and getting your body back into balance. But um, the claims we can make is more energy feeling better. Yeah. Uh, mental clarity and just that Christmas in your brain thinking more and just more vigor, vitality, right. And all the other things that are going on, like aches and pains, kind of ease, flexibility in your joints and all that stuff. Because yeah, we can't make any claims that we cure, treat or prevent any disease, which we don't. Right. We're getting the body back into balance and that's what does the healing.
Speaker 2:
18:07
Yeah. And this is something, I mean, your family is all on these products. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
18:12
My, when when I started, I got them all on it because it was about prevention. And, and you know, um, but got my mom and dad on it that at the time they were 68 and they're both diabetics and they've had some great results with it and other 77 and honestly healthier than when they were 16.
Speaker 2:
18:29
Yeah. That's amazing. And how, how does the, your, your product, how is it formulated? I mean, you're here, you know, that's kinda one of the concern that I think people have with supplements. It's where does it come from? Who's, who's making it? What's the purity? Is there actually, you know what they say it does, does it contain what they claim it contains and all that stuff. And so there's kind of that, and I do this, I mean I work out all the time and so I take a lot of supplements for my body to re, you know, repair my muscles so I can get back to the gym the next day and all that stuff. And it's constantly like this game of I'm reading reviews and looking what's in it and where is it being formulated, where is it being made? And because there's, there's a lot of garbage out there that people just put, you know, sugar into pill form and sell it and you take it and you go, yeah, this feels different because cause you, it's kind of psychosomatic. You're psyching yourself out of it. But tell me about, about, you know, your organization and how they do that.
Speaker 3:
19:23
So we have two, um, uh, approvals. So we have the NSF that approves the safety of our product and actually what's in it is in it. Um, and the BSCG, which is a banned substance control group for professional athletes. And you know, in that category that we're in, there's only, so there's millions of supplements out there and there's only about 40 that are approved by the B SCG. And we are one of those 40 that are in there. And all of our products that come out, we try to get them all approved before they launch cause we want to make sure that, um, we've already gone through that extensive, you know, uh, checking them out or they, you know, do they really do what they say they do. Um, and so those approvals are really important for us. I mean, we've got professional athletes on these products.
Speaker 3:
20:13
And, um, so those two are what someone's looking for in their supplements. Like what, what type of seal of approval is on there? Like what process has those companies going through? Like the NSF is an organization that it, they take lots and make sure that what you say is in and what it does actually does do that. Um, you know, I was just talking to my son the other day, he was in college and I said, Oh, we have this new product. And he's like, is it NSF approved? And I'm like, how do you know what it is? Right. But they can't even know. They get tested and they have to make sure that don't have any performance enhancing or you know, steroids or things like that. And so, so the colleges are, they're being taught like, look for NSF if you're going to take a product.
Speaker 3:
20:59
So I mean, that's a great seal of approval to know what you're taking. Um, you know, has gone through that rigorous, um, testing to an inspection to prove that it does what it says it does and what's in it? Cause you're right, there was a study that came out, um, probably a year ago looking at different products on the market that made these claims and said, Oh it has, you know, tumeric in it and they look at it and 90% wasn't to work was other binders and fillers and it was a very small percentage of, of the amount of tumor that was supposed to be in it. So that's scary when you think of that's why cheaper is not always the best like going, you know, somewhere and just buying something because it's a cheaper former two more eggs and buying, you know, a good brand that has a good seal of approval from an organization, one of those organizations on it.
Speaker 2:
21:52
Yeah. And then there's, there's some power in sort of the peer review, right? I mean, if your company is doing well, the product's successful, you have 80,000 people who are buying and using it and continue to buy and using it, use it. Then that shows you, okay there's, there's something to that. You know, it's not just a guy out of the back of a pickup truck who's dumping a bunch of powders into a, into a crate and selling it. But yeah, you know, it is complicated and it is tricky. There's, there's a form that I follow online somewhere, I forget where it is, but they basically, there was a guy who went through and he did that same thing. He bought a bunch of supplements and then he took them to a lab and the lab runs them through a, an analysis. They use a machine called the gas chromatography machine, which is the same exact machine that they use to test blood results in DUI cases.
Speaker 2:
22:38
So I was familiar with, with how it works and how they, and how they do everything. But he was running samples, I think of of NAD actually the injectable type, the Ivy type, and you know, you can buy, you can buy that online. But it's, of course, it's all says, it's not for human consumption. It's not for animal consumption. It's only for lab materials. And it's the eye injectable stuff. And you can buy it from China and India and all these places. Well, he bought a bunch of samples, random through the machine. None of them had any, any NAD in there, you know, they just didn't have it in there, but you wouldn't know that unless you ran it through the test. And it's very expensive to go do those tests. Not, you know, you are, I just can't go do that for all of the supplements that we have. And so that's why it's so important that, that, you know, what you're taking, I think is tied to a reputable, credible company. Absolutely. And that's who you, that that's who you're partnering with. It's called LifeVantage.
Speaker 3:
23:30
Yes. LifeVantage is the company. And, uh, like I said, and even before when we launched, like we just launched an NAD product. Yeah. And we wanted to make sure that we did our own research and study to prove that what it did right. Um, compared to what was on the market. And, um, that's important to us to be backed by science. And, um, our main signature product, the NRF two activator has 26 peer reviewed studies. Yeah. And, and that's the thing, the studies aren't done in, sometimes a product will claim, Oh, I, we have studies they're using. Um, let's go back to tumeric. Right? Oh, we, tumeric is good for all of these things. And there's hundreds of studies out there, but they're using the studies that are done in general on tumeric, not on their particular product. Right. Um, and if you look at, I challenge, people can go look at the supplements you take.
Speaker 3:
24:21
Go to pub med.gov, the national Institute of Health's website where peer reviewed research is published and go see if your supplement is there, like branded by name. And what studies have been done on it. There's very few, uh, studies on supplements by, especially by independent universities because lots of times they don't do what they say they're gonna do and they're not going to invest their, you know, grant money and funding into doing that research. We have 26, I think it's 26 peer reviewed studies, three done by the company. All the others had done by independent universities because of we can reduce oxidative stress by 40% in an average of 30 days. So that was significant to them. Like, okay, we know this disease is linked to oxidative stress. Let's see what, what's the outcome? What's it going to do? So those studies are on our branded product, not on a tumeric, but on our branded product. So it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2:
25:17
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, that's impressive because it's, people want to kind of pick and choose what they study cause it gives them the best answers. Right. But if they're studying your actual product, that includes the formulation and the sourcing and all of that stuff. So these different products, you had kind of mentioned that there's w th back to the car analogy, right? You've got your driver or the engine, the computer and all that stuff. Are the, these things are stuff are stuff that you take individually or can you take them together? Do they compliment one another?
Speaker 3:
25:47
They do compliment one another. And, um, we actually with, with the NAD product that just launched, we wanted to see how is it going to do with our NRF two and on an NRF one activator. Yeah. And it was astonishing the results because I'm, like I said, the NRF two can reduce oxidative stress by 40%. When we, um, um, add the NAD to the formula to the mix, we call them the Trice center Jazzers all of them got even more activated. Good. You know, those pathways opened up even more. Um, so together they actually work, uh, the synergistic effect of all three of them. That layering of all three actually work even our more potent and like supercharged. Yeah. We'd like to say,
Speaker 2:
26:31
yeah. So. All right. So people can, uh, can, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll share some information about the specific, uh, sources where they can find that product at the end of the show. But I want to talk a little bit more about the network marketing component of this, uh, of this space and this product and some of what you do because there is sort of a stigma around that, right? People kind of think that, uh, well, you know, maybe you're just on the show to pitch your product because you have a financial incentive to it. They want to disregard your story and the benefits and, and you sort of can take a person who is a true believer who is doing it for the right reasons, in lump of, in with the other people who are not. Right. So I wanted to kind of dive into that, you know, the network marketing kind of stigma. What's your take on the whole, on the whole topic. I know it's a huge, broad, general question, but what's your, what's your kind of, what's your kind of take on that?
Speaker 3:
27:27
So when I, you know, first learned about this, I didn't have a negative or positive opinion on network marketing. I really didn't know a lot about it. Yeah. Um, I had only been approached in my twenties by Amway, but that's all I knew and you know, wasn't interested. I was in my twenties, you know, really wasn't interested in, in it at all. Not that that was it. So I really didn't have a negative or positive. And then I start bumping into people and they're like, Oh, you know, the main thing, Oh, it's a pyramid scheme. I'm like, well, if you look at any organization, they're set up as pyramids, right. You know, you know, religion, right? So any religion, you have a priest, a pastor, or a rabbi, right. Yet the, that probably could be a joke, but I don't know the term. I'm sure there's many, but you know, and then you know, you have the, you know, the clergy and then you know, the people in organizations, you've got a CEO, then you've got the VPs and you got directors, and then you got, yeah.
Speaker 3:
28:21
So every organization is set up in that format. Right, right. Um, in, in network marketing, I think it got that because I think there have been pyramid schemes. People say, Oh, that's a pyramid scheme. I said, no pyramid schemes are illegal, as you know. Right. We LifeVantage is a publicly traded comp company. We're on NASDAQ. We got on the Russell index last year. So, you know, we've been vetted and you know, we have to follow all the FTC, you know, regulations and all of that for being a publicly traded company. Um, so, you know, there's good and bad in everything, you know, and there probably is bad network marketing companies out there just like, you know, anything else. I think you have to look at, you know, look at the company, you know, um, you know, is it public traded is not publicly traded and the pyramid things is, is comes from like you're building this team and it's your, the only one, you know, the idea was okay, you're at the top of this pyramid and you're the only, only one making money.
Speaker 3:
29:19
Well, it's not that way. I mean, I have people on my team that make more than what I make. Yeah. You know, just because of their organizations, the way they're balanced and they've grown them. Yeah. Um, I tried to explain it to people. Um, it's like an online franchise. When you think of franchise, you think of it's a pyramid scheme. You don't, but someone had an idea, they franchised that idea. They're getting paid and other people are, you know, bought into this franchise. So it was just like, network marketing is kinda like that, you know, it's, you know, when I started this, I was just me and I just started talking to people about it. And so I had other people, someone that enrolled me, right? So whatever I make, they're going to get a little piece of it. But they've been my coach, my mentor, you know, they're there.
Speaker 3:
30:04
So I, and that's what I do with my team. I coach, I mentor them. So yeah, I get a little portion of that. Um, but they also get it. They can, I say they can go build their own pyramid. Right. And that's what, you know, it happens. And so, um, I think it's just an old school thinking. Um, but I think they've changed a lot. I think they've worked a lot very close, um, with the FTC and uh, FTC, one of their big thing is that you're not just pushing people to become distributors. They want us, it makes sure that you are selling a product and they're happy. And I think that's where it's gotten this negative connotation because it was just getting people to sign on and become distributors. I look at, as you know, I just present information and where do people fit in?
Speaker 3:
30:50
90% of my business is all customers. So the FTC loves our company because of, you know, we truly have a product that people want to just get on the product, right? So, you know, great. You want to be a customer, just be a customer. Yeah. And you know, you're looking for the few who are looking for more and you're looking for the business side of it or some part time, you know, we're talking about the gig economy, right? People are driving Uber and selling stuff on Amazon now and making money that way. Everybody's looking for something on the side that you can do part time. And I think today with social media and having smart phones, like I can do almost everything with my phone, wherever I go, I can move anywhere, I can live anywhere and you know, build this using my phone, everything's there at a touch and um, it's made it so much easier. So it's opened it up that people can build this part time business and if it grows great or if they just want enough to pay for their product and get some family members on it, you know, it's all over the board.
Speaker 2:
31:50
Yeah. I think people just have an issue with the people who are extremely pushy with it. And it's kind of like anything, right? You have a very small percentage of people who do things the wrong way and it gives everybody else a bad name. Right. And it's the same across the board. I mean, I have, I have a whole segment that I do about police officers and not all police officers are bad and there's, but there are some that are bad and they give the rest of them, you know, they kind of taint the reputation of everybody else. And I think that's happening in in a lot of the network marketing companies, people who are pushing a product for the wrong reasons, they don't actually believe in it or know much about it. They're just doing it just to make that book. And then that comes off as being insincere and not genuine. And people kind of have a visceral response to that. They just do not like to talk to people like that. And when you have somebody in your family who's trying to sell you every, every product, you go with
Speaker 3:
32:40
him, Christmas dinners, not fun anymore. Right? Right. The Thanksgivings now, no fun. But on the same, on the same side, on a different side, you have kind of an obligation. If you believe in a product and you think it's very good and you've seen benefits and your family seen benefits and you know that this can help people, you're kind of doing a disservice if you're not out there advocating for it. So I like I explained this to my team, right? When it comes to our law firm, I say we're the best law firm in the country. We're a premier law firm. We do right by our clients. We have a set of principles that we espouse. We're gonna, you know, we have a mission, we have a vision, we're gonna do all those things. So we need to go be advocates because if we don't do it, then there are people are going to go to other law firms and they're going to get subpar service.
Speaker 3:
33:24
They're going to get taken advantage of. They're going to get exploited, they're going to get terrible results. It's not going to work out well for them. So if we're not actually out there advocating, then we're doing a disservice to the community. And you know, it's not far off from, from what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. Because that's the essence of it. I mean, I 100% love these products and believe in it. And how if I'm sitting with you and you start talking to me about a challenge, you're having like health issue and, and if I don't share it with you, like what type of person am I? Right. That's how I look at it. Because, you know, I thank God every day that, you know, my neighbor came over and shared this with me, you know? And so I just feel it's an obligation that all I can do is, you know, give you the information, take a look at it and see, you know, if it's a good fit for you, at least I know I've put it into your hands and you can do your research and look at it and see if it's something that you are interested in.
Speaker 3:
34:18
And if not, that's fine. But at least I did my part and I let you know that, you know, because I do believe in them. I didn't know, like I said, I didn't get into the business because of the business. I was looking for a business. Yeah. I wasn't looking for a business. Um, I was looking for my health and like what can I get into my body to make me healthier? And so, um, I got into this because I saw the health benefit of it. I saw what it started doing to my, you know, my, my family and friends around me. And I'm like, Oh, well, okay, let me, you know, I've always been a person that shared everything anyway. Right? Um, if I read a book or go to a movie, I'm sharing it with people. So I'm like, why wouldn't I share this?
Speaker 3:
34:57
And because I'm getting a financial benefit, so why it, you know, that's just part of it. Great. If, if I do, um, I mean anything anyone does, I mean, you're an attorney but you don't do your, what you do for free, your training. I don't know what I do for free. So yeah, of course not. And it's a good, it's a good fit for some people. Kind of like you said, the online franchise right there. There are people who may or may not be, you know, they, they, they work at home, they've got kids, they're, you know, they're staying at home, but parents, whatever that is. And so this may be a good fit for them. They can try the product. If the product works well and you know, and they get some good benefits off of it, then they can start telling some other people.
Speaker 3:
35:35
And then that's kind of what happened with you, right? It turned into this entire, into this entire business. And it's provided you as a result of your work, you've been compensated for it and you've got, you know, sort of a certain level of freedom that's associated with what you've built over the years and you've got some financial security and it's a good fit. You're not doing wrong by anybody. Nope. Nope. It's just finding the person who's looking in, in for those things like you mentioned, you know, and you know, if that's something that they're looking for more time freedom, you know, to do something from home. Like, you know, I have a lot of stay at home moms who that just wanted to make some extra income. They want to be at home with their children and, but they want to still be active and still, you know, talk to adults and, and you know, having, you know, this community cause we are building, you know, I like to say that we using this wellness to, to build community and to build, you know, opportunity but community, I mean one of the things in network marketing, it turns into a lot of personal development.
Speaker 3:
36:37
It's very positive, um, industry to be in. Um, and you know, you don't see that in a lot of, you know, corporate jobs or other businesses. People are trying to compete for one position and here we're all trying to help each other. You know, we're all trying to validate this and, and help each other have success. And then that's, you know, building this team. I want people on my team to be way more successful. You know, they have other, other skill sets that they bring to the table. And I want everyone that, you know, wants the success to do everything I can possible to give them that. And, you know, we have moms and dads, then I can be home with their kids. Cause that's what they wanted to do. Raising them and not, you know, only seeing them like I was before one hour or two hours a night.
Speaker 3:
37:24
Yeah. You know, I didn't see my son take his first steps, the babysitter SRN and it's like, you know, kind of when you think about it now, kind of disappointing. Like I wish maybe I had listened to him way back in my twenties and yeah. You know, who knows. But, um, it, you know, it gives people other opportunities in other things too, in, in purpose because when you change someone's life, when you give them hope and they're just, you know, they feel better and they can do more things and they can spend more time with, you know, their family and they just feeling better. When you're not feeling good, you're most of the time grumpy. But when you're feeling good and then you're happier and it just, you know, it's that domino effect in the right direction and that is inspiring and you want to do more of that.
Speaker 3:
38:09
When you know, it's almost like a drug. When you see people have good results in the thank you is that you get from it and you just want more of that. You want to go and help and bless more people and it's good because you're doing it for the right reason. And then when people respond, it's almost like, you know, it's kind of a snowball effect, right? The people try it and they go, yeah, this worked great for me. This is a great, this kind of changed my life. And then they can pass it onto the next person and seems, uh, I don't know what all the hubbub is about. The network marketing stuff, I think, you know, I think it's, it's a little bit different than, than the traditional nine to five job. But that's not a bad thing. That's how this whole country is moving in that direction.
Speaker 3:
38:46
Everybody wants to build their own little, their own little empire. Yeah. And network marketing has been around for 150 years. Yeah. So it's been an industry that, you know, I, you know, had started out not as negative but I think turned, but I think we're seeing the light. I think a lot of companies are doing it the right way, having really good products or services and really focusing on as much as getting distributors, but getting customers to have that solid foundation of uh, customers. And yeah. Well I like your approach to it. I mean the, I think, I think a lot of the stigma comes from I, I'm reading a book called influenced by a guy named Robert GLD. And he talks about way back when they started those Tupperware parties when, when women would invite all their friends over and they'd kind of get them captive in a room and they'd sell them a bunch of Tupperware or, and then people would be sort of held captive that, you know, I can't not buy Tupperware.
Speaker 3:
39:40
This is my friend and I've known her for 20 years. And then they'd all, you know, they'd all submit their orders and then they would all leave and they'd all be really angry about it. Like they felt like they got conned into buying this top where and now they can't return it because it's gonna, you know, jeopardize their friendship turned into this whole drama thing to sell some Tupperware. And that company, you know, they were really incentivizing people to do it. That was basically their only way of selling their product. And then top, you know, they're selling 2 million pieces a day or something of Tupperware because of that model. And that model was kind of high pressure is kind of taking advantage of some relationships and those things. Whereas here you're just saying, Hey, it's good, it's good. Try it. If you like it, great.
Speaker 3:
40:17
If you don't, great move on. Right. And, and there's, there's a big difference between those two things. I think one is the right way to do it and one's not right. And you know, I tell people there's 300 let's just, the U S is 300 million Americans. Yeah. There's plenty of people out there and there's plenty of people that look for natural alternatives that are open to in, you know, supplementation. So you just got to talk to enough people and you're gonna bump into the right people who, Hey, yeah, I want to try this. Yes, I'd like to get off this. And you know, the other thing with network marketing is the cost of entry is very low, right? Right. So you think, you know, if you're going to build a multimillion dollar business, right? Today we do on average $13 million in sales a year. Yeah. So you think of that, well, I gotta pay hundreds of thousands to, you know, franchises are a quarter of a million dollars to get in a franchise.
Speaker 3:
41:11
Right? And you've got a whole own multiple to even break even. Yeah. And so I think part of the problem why you get all these different people and maybe some that are not as professional in in the industry is because the cost of entry, I mean, ours, you can join friends becoming distributors for as little as $50 or a thousand if he gets some product with that, right? Right. So $50 is not a lot. And so I think you get a lot of people that, you know, um, don't take it as a professional business. So yeah, I looked at it when I started like, I'm, I want to be professional about this. I don't want to be that annoying friend that's always bugging you or you know, even on, you know, on online and on my Facebook pages, I don't want to be that annoying person's like pepper it in with everything else I do.
Speaker 3:
41:57
Um, but always trying to educate people and give them value. And I think that's part of the problem is that people get in that really don't take the time to become professional and get and learn the skill sets to how to talk to people when to back off. It's, it's honestly, it's really just listening to people. Yeah. I mean I think that is the one skillset that if anyone's going to join network marketing is just listened to people, they'll, they'll say enough that they'll open that doorway to introduce them to whatever you have. If you ask enough questions, if you just talk to people, it really, I mean that's all I do is I sit and listen. Sometimes I'll meet someone and I'll never even bring it up. Yeah. And you know, I'll wait to, you know, they talk about something that's going on in their life.
Speaker 3:
42:43
Yeah. No. Whether it's a health issue or, you know, Christmas is coming, I'm looking, I'm looking for a part time job and I'm, then I'll say, well how about a part time business, right? Or if someone mentions a health issue or have you ever thought of this right? You know, would you like to look at some information? So I think it's just be professional in this. If we all really become, take it as a serious business and become professional. Yeah. We can change the face of what network marketing is and people would really embrace it in that annoy people.
Speaker 2:
43:14
Great advice. I mean, it's like that with anything. I mean, but, but you're right, there's kind of a disconnect, you know? It doesn't matter what you're in. If you're selling ice cream cones, you don't want to be pushy about it. You don't want to be in people's faces when they don't want an ice cream cone. You want to give people who are interested in an ice cream cone to some options. And sometimes, you know, people just lose sight of, of I think, you know, standard decorum in communication. They kind of forget about that because they're so hype. They S you know, they, they wanna they want to do well and they can lose sight of what's really important. But you're obviously doing it for the right reasons and you sound like a great mentor or somebody who helps other people who are getting into that space succeed and do well. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
43:54
That's the thing I love the most. I mean, I was in HR for 20 some years because I chose that career because I love people and I love helping them advance and, and reach their potential. Like I think we all have greatness inside of us and I love to see people achieve, you know, their dreams and their goals and be part of that. Um, and that's been one of the things that I didn't even know I was gonna the skill set that I had in human resources transitioned over so well into this business. And absolutely, I love inspiring people and, and seeing them grow from someone that, you know, had never done anything like this. Like I had it but didn't have even a lot of the skillsets, but yeah, to grow and become that leader and lead a team and then all of a sudden you see this person, you know, on stage speaking in shining and Whoa, look at the transformation, um, that has occurred in, in, in, that's what really drives me is finding those diamonds in the rough and seeing them transform and, you know, changing their lives and, you know, and even our children like, you know, I, they're watching like my boys saw their moms start this business with, you know, never done this before and you know, following along my journey and encouraging me and kind of pushing me, Hey mom, when you get into the next level, you know, cause they know the different levels.
Speaker 3:
45:14
We go from one to 10 and Hey mom, you're still list when you're going to get to the next level. And, um, and when my son, I took him to a conference one time and, um, he was I think a freshman or sophomore in high school. And as we were walking back from dinner one night, he goes, mom, I finally get it. I finally get what you do. You, you're helping so many people. So it wasn't about selling that pill, right? It was about all the people that had been helped because they were all coming up to my son and, you know, saying great stuff to him and, um, just how, you know, I had helped or, you know, anything like that. And so he really got that this was really about helping people, helping people in life along their journey. And, um, that's what inspires me, that I love doing in this business.
Speaker 2:
46:02
Yeah, you're great at it and you're great at it. I get to fortunately get to hang out with you every now and then and you're, you're very good at it. Let's, let's give some people some practical, uh, abilities to get in touch with you, to connect with you. If they want to continue this conversation, if they want to hop on and actually try some of the products. Where are the best places for people to go?
Speaker 3:
46:23
So I have a, a page on Facebook called [inaudible] N R F two activator that they can find me and they can find me personally on Facebook under Maria Williams. Also, I'm on Instagram, I'm a Maria bee. Well and um, yeah they can reach out to me email life. They find me on Facebook or Instagram, my phone number and emails are on there and they can try to contact me or they can go to Maria Williams. Dot lifevantage.com and uh, check out the products, the sciences there and um, they can contact me through there also.
Speaker 2:
46:59
Outstanding. Well, perfect. So there you have it folks. Maria Williams. Dot lifevantage.com phone number (623) 523-7205. Find her on Facebook, find her on Instagram and be well as they say, Ms. Maria Williams. Thank you for being here. Really appreciate you coming on the griller nation. We'll see you on the next one. All right. Thank you.
Speaker 1:
47:22
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